So look, as we look ahead to 2021, all of us, of course, are waiting for normalization sooner rather than later, and such that the T&E dynamic would reverse.

Jan 27, 2021 / CFO / receipt, needs a key / Michael Choppin, CFO | earnings call 2021-01-27 | transcript f3a420a9-98c8-4c6b-b081-151cba2a8bca | chars 42193-42350 | segment 43

And then second, You know, similar to other companies, we are seeing some margin benefit from lower discretionary expense such as T&E related to the current period and COVID, which is more of a temporary impact.

Jul 23, 2020 / CFO / receipt, needs a key / Michael Choppin, CFO | earnings call 2020-07-23 | transcript e2bc181d-b0c1-4793-9b15-34350e9e8a6f | chars 25316-25527 | segment 26