So I think these things tend to ebb and flow, but the overall path of travel is towards more alternatives, and that's obviously positive for the industry and positive for us.

Jan 27, 2023 / CEO / receipt, needs a key / Weston Tucker, CEO | earnings call 2023-01-27 | transcript 5df74cf9-7c62-4c8a-a92c-8bd581e14b5f | chars 59217-59391 | segment 61