Look, I think there was definitely less travel and there were a few less employees, but there were also some additional costs that it took to operate during COVID as well.

Aug 5, 2020 / CEO / receipt, needs a key / Tim Wood, CEO | earnings call 2020-08-05 | transcript 8ef58593-4332-49d7-a07a-fa271f2e44ac | chars 41753-41924 | segment 42