Turning to expense management, our third quarter 2025 property casualty underwriting expense ratio decreased by 0.5 percentage points, primarily due to growth and earned premiums outpacing growth and expenses.

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I'll briefly touch on expense management and our efforts to balance expense control with strategic business investments.

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We always strive for our expense management efforts to strike an appropriate balance between controlling expenses and making strategic investments in our business. was 0.6 percentage points higher than last year, primarily due to an increase in associate and travel-related expenses.

Oct 27, 2023 / CFO / receipt, needs a key / Mike Sewell, CFO | earnings call 2023-10-27 | transcript 383c1345-a2a4-4550-a949-d309c4a646bb | chars 9288-9571 | segment 9

We continue to emphasize expense management with a balance between controlling expenses and making strategic investments in our business.

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Regarding expense management, we intend to appropriately balance controlling expenses with making strategic investments in our business.

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Regarding expense management, we continue to apply what we see as the appropriate balance between expense control and strategic investments in our business.

Nov 1, 2022 / CFO / receipt, needs a key / Mike Sewell, CFO | earnings call 2022-11-01 | transcript 304c4c37-43ba-4e86-893a-ad75da91d704 | chars 10329-10485 | segment 10

Expense management efforts in 2021 were very good, and we continue to carefully balance strategic business investments and expense controls.

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Expense management is another area we focus, always trying to optimize the balance of strategic business investments and expense controls.

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The second quarter ratio was higher than the first quarter of this year, largely due to higher accruals related to profit sharing in the second quarter and lower expenses in the first quarter that benefited from less business travel.

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The pandemic continued to cause lower spending for several items, such as business travel.

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