Obviously, travel is still very light. The trade shows and conferences are essentially not happening. And so a lot of that money that you spend to support the sales effort is being done virtually at a much lower cost.

Oct 28, 2020 / CEO / receipt, needs a key / Kurt Hartman, CEO | earnings call 2020-10-28 | transcript dab64ee7-6073-463c-ae6a-ca1678c2d84f | chars 27414-27631 | segment 28