And there's been a lot of media coverage where they're not, a lot of Canadians are not deciding to come here and go somewhere else. So we've seen a pretty steep drop off in our travel and accident business.

Apr 24, 2025 / CEO / receipt, needs a key / Craig Smitty, CEO | earnings call 2025-04-24 | transcript af8443a6-e813-4b4f-8154-b81b15b2e75a | chars 21598-21804 | segment 22