And during this pandemic, obviously, there were no people flying around. Only our essential workers. because only our essential employees that had to go in to somewhere did any kind of traveling at all. We had moved entirely to work from home, and so we didn't have T&E expenses.

Jun 16, 2020 / CEO / receipt, needs a key / Safra Catz, CEO | earnings call 2020-06-16 | transcript 33fab52c-6d57-453d-88a5-3e068ac78e88 | chars 41707-41986 | segment 43