Well, John, I would tell you, you know, some of the temporary cost cuts that we're going to make permanent are, you know, think about travel and expenses. We're learning how to deal with that on a regular basis, so that's internal and external costs.

Oct 20, 2020 / CFO / receipt, needs a key / Vince Morales, CFO | earnings call 2020-10-20 | transcript 02aec1c7-d12a-4e01-935d-126c9f32bd2b | chars 10690-10940 | segment 11