I think maybe fiscal 21 is a little below trend because there's not a lot of travel and expenses like that in it because of COVID stuff.

Sep 23, 2021 / CEO / receipt, needs a key / Roy W. Olivier, CEO | earnings call 2021-09-23 | transcript 7f6da8b7-b542-4c95-8e14-6fe885a97480 | chars 18395-18531 | segment 18