Our non-comp operating expenses should be similar to those in the first quarter, as we continue to see relatively modest increases in travel and entertainment expenses.

Apr 27, 2021 / CEO / receipt, needs a key / Ron Krueger, CEO | earnings call 2021-04-27 | transcript d0d8acef-ce5e-41a6-877b-2b4e5c783499 | chars 21099-21267 | segment 21

I think until you really get to a point where you pick up to a normal operating environment in terms of travel and conferences, et cetera, you really won't see a material change in our expense base.

Oct 28, 2020 / CEO / receipt, needs a key / Ron Krueger, CEO | earnings call 2020-10-28 | transcript 33d77f7d-80aa-4c8b-ac47-6fd628580b86 | chars 34198-34396 | segment 34