Then there'd be miscellaneous type expenses, a lot of travel costs, meetings, and then additional board members with fees and such that start to go through in the quarter.

Sep 5, 2024 / CEO / receipt, needs a key / David Taylor, CEO | earnings call 2024-09-05 | transcript ada5b0d0-ed82-46e0-b1ce-970928d4d683 | chars 20090-20261 | segment 21