So as we think about the temporary savings, the 15 to 20 we expect in the first quarter, I would say roughly half of that relates to travel and entertainment. I suspect, you know, given the new world we live in, some of that will become more structural in nature.

Feb 4, 2021 / CEO / receipt, needs a key / Robert Culler, CEO | earnings call 2021-02-04 | transcript d061e299-ebb8-489e-83a8-0eb6c4eebdde | chars 32619-32882 | segment 32