A good question. I think we saw a slight uptick from 2022. We're about where we were in 2021, if I recall, on the operating expenses. A lot of that has to do with 2022. We had still, for example, had not gone to the SHOT Show. We had a couple of expenses that were not in there versus 2023. We have a full complement of trade shows. But there are certainly some areas we need to look at in terms of making sure we have our expenses under control, cut some of those expenses where we can, and try to boost our profitability. That's an active effort that's underway as we speak.

Feb 21, 2024 / receipt, needs a key / Chris Killoy, CEO | earnings call 2024-02-21 | transcript 15e08d6b-5057-4de9-8d9b-8d0925f1983d | chars 13197-13773 | segment 13

We also experienced expense reductions and deferrals in certain areas of our business, including reductions or delays in sponsorships and advertising, reduced conference and trade show participation costs, and reduced travel expenditures.

Feb 18, 2021 / receipt, needs a key / Chris Killoy, CEO | earnings call 2021-02-18 | transcript 4ccbf6f6-6e0a-4100-8d06-977adbc6dccd | chars 11889-12127 | segment 11

But, frankly, they're not traveling. So they're not making the calls on their distributors and retailers like they normally would.

Feb 18, 2021 / receipt, needs a key / Chris, CEO | earnings call 2021-02-18 | transcript 4ccbf6f6-6e0a-4100-8d06-977adbc6dccd | chars 18330-18460 | segment 18

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