And certainly contributing to some of that, certainly not all of it was lower T and E. And as we talked about in the third quarter, I mean, that's really an area where this year, depending on, you know, what happens with vaccine distribution, et cetera, I mean, we may see a little bit of an increase, but we certainly, are not going to return to the old normal there.

Feb 16, 2021 / receipt, needs a key / Tom, CEO | earnings call 2021-02-16 | transcript d71a30f1-8007-4baf-89c8-f59079155d06 | chars 20650-21018 | segment 20

I think in terms of whether or not something is temporary, you look at T&E, and I think that for ourselves and for other people, we've learned a lot about managing through the pandemic. And so I don't think for us or lots of other companies out there, we will see a return to a level of T&E that existed before. So I think that's going to be some money that we put in our pocket as we continue to use Zoom technologies and other communication technologies to our advantage.

Nov 6, 2020 / receipt, needs a key / Suzanne, CFO | earnings call 2020-11-06 | transcript a8cdf4a5-052a-4916-ac9e-ab176392597f | chars 22029-22502 | segment 23

You know, everyone always points to, you know, travel expense and those sorts of things. But I think, you know, Vulcan, you know, has learned something, you know, over this, you know, time of the, of the pandemic, and I think other companies will as well, that there are, you know, certain ways and times to communicate using, you know, video or other technology where your communication, you know, is actually, I think, you know, more succinct and more clear because everyone's managing their time. And, you know, while you need to be out front and in front of your employees, and I'm not implying that we would ever step away from that, I think there are you know, ways that you can utilize that technology to even manage those costs when things get more back to normal.

Aug 4, 2020 / receipt, needs a key / Tom, CEO | earnings call 2020-08-04 | transcript 5dd86451-570a-4c86-81e3-6d9f872e1439 | chars 26458-27230 | segment 27

Adjusted EBITDA

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Continued focus on leveraging overhead cost structure

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